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Info-Hams Digest            Mon,  1 Aug 94       Volume 94 : Issue  863

Today's Topics:
                add me to your mailing list/newsgroup
                         add to mailing list
     CT:Re: Did someone say . . . bolus ?┘N2>Message-ID: <774847
       Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 30 July
                         IRCs vs $$ (2 msgs)
                        lightbulbs as antennas
                    NOS like program for the Mac?
                        VE3ONT adds 50 MHz EME
                      Welcome to rec.radio.info!
                      What to do with old OST's

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Date: 1 Aug 94 17:36:05 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: add me to your mailing list/newsgroup
To: [e-mail]

Please add me to your newsgroup/mailing list.

thanks

dan dalal
[e-mail]

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Date: 1 Aug 94 17:28:38 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: add to mailing list
To: [e-mail]

please add me to your newsgroup/mailing list.
thanks

dan dalal
[e-mail]

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Date: 30 Jul 1994 11:39:05 -0700
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!apple.com!apple.com![e-mail]
Subject: CT:Re: Did someone say . . . bolus ?┘N2>Message-ID: <774847
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Forrest Gehrke) writes:

>N2>In article <30ml9p$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writ
>N2>>I remember when we told our Elmer we got our tickets, he told us we must've
>N2>>made a mistake, as there was no such thing as a KA7 call.  He thought that
>N2>>was a DX prefix!
>N2>>

>And he was right!  KA was the prefix for the Philippine Islands
>before their independence.


If memory serves, back in my SWL days in 9M2-land during the early- to
mid-60s,  I was hearing a lot of KAs from Japan.

I think they might be licenses issued to folks posted to the U.S. military
bases there.

73,

Kok Chen, AA6TY                [e-mail]
Apple Computer, Inc.

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Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 21:50:12 MDT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs![e-mail]
Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 30 July
To: [e-mail]

                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                 DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY

                                  30 JULY, 1994

                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                  (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data)


SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY INDICES FOR 30 JULY, 1994
--------------------------------------------------------

NOTE: Electron fluence at greater than 2 MeV were at weakly moderate levels.

!!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 211, 07/30/94
10.7 FLUX=075.3  90-AVG=079        SSN=025      BKI=4220 2222  BAI=008
BGND-XRAY=A1.3     FLU1=6.2E+05  FLU10=1.2E+04  PKI=3322 2223  PAI=009
  BOU-DEV=000,018,017,004,017,017,015,010   DEV-AVG=012 NT     SWF=00:000
 XRAY-MAX= A7.7   @ 1601UT    XRAY-MIN= A1.0   @ 2252UT   XRAY-AVG= A2.4
NEUTN-MAX= +000%  @ 2310UT   NEUTN-MIN= -005%  @ 0140UT  NEUTN-AVG= -1.0%
  PCA-MAX= +0.1DB @ 1800UT     PCA-MIN= -0.5DB @ 1740UT    PCA-AVG= -0.0DB
BOUTF-MAX=55253NT @ 0156UT   BOUTF-MIN=55220NT @ 1956UT  BOUTF-AVG=55238NT
GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT   GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT  G7-AVG=+077,+000,+000
GOES6-MAX=P:+150NT@ 1922UT   GOES6-MIN=N:-040NT@ 0152UT  G6-AVG=+106,+033,-013
 FLUXFCST=STD:075,075,075;SESC:075,075,075 BAI/PAI-FCST=010,005,005/010,010,010
    KFCST=2223 1222 2222 1222  27DAY-AP=014,011   27DAY-KP=3344 2233 3332 2333
 WARNINGS=
   ALERTS=
!!END-DATA!!

NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 29 JUL 94 was  26.7.
      The Full Kp Indices for 29 JUL 94 are not available.
      The 3-Hr Ap Indices for 29 JUL 94 are not available.
      Greater than 2 MeV Electron Fluence for 30 JUL is: 1.1E+08


SYNOPSIS OF ACTIVITY
--------------------

             Solar activity was very low.  New Region 7760 (S06W50)
       was numbered this period as a BXO beta spot group.

            Solar activity forecast:  solar activity is expected to be
       very low.

            The geomagnetic field has been at quiet to active levels
       for the past 24 hours.  The GT 2 MeV energetic electron flux
       was at mostly moderate to high levels.

            Geophysical activity forecast:  the geomagnetic field is
       expected to be mostly quiet to unsettled.

            Event probabilities 31 jul-02 aug

                             Class M    01/01/01
                             Class X    01/01/01
                             Proton     01/01/01
                             PCAF       Green

            Geomagnetic activity probabilities 31 jul-02 aug

                        A.  Middle Latitudes
                        Active                10/05/05
                        Minor Storm           05/01/01
                        Major-Severe Storm    01/01/01

                        B.  High Latitudes
                        Active                20/15/15
                        Minor Storm           10/05/05
                        Major-Severe Storm    05/05/05

            HF propagation conditions were normal over all regions.
       Good propagation is expected to continue through the next 72
       hours.


COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS
========================================================

REGIONS WITH SUNSPOTS. LOCATIONS VALID AT 30/2400Z JULY
-------------------------------------------------------
NMBR LOCATION  LO  AREA  Z   LL   NN MAG TYPE
7759  N03E10  211  0000 AXX  00  001 ALPHA
7760  S06W50  271  0010 BXO  03  004 BETA
REGIONS DUE TO RETURN 31 JULY TO 02 AUGUST
NMBR LAT    LO
NONE


LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 30 JULY, 1994
---------------------------------------------------
BEGIN  MAX  END  RGN   LOC   XRAY  OP 245MHZ 10CM   SWEEP
NONE


POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 30 JULY, 1994
-------------------------------------------------------
 BEGIN        MAX      END     LOCATION   TYPE   SIZE  DUR  II IV
     NO EVENTS OBSERVED


INFERRED CORONAL HOLES. LOCATIONS VALID AT 30/2400Z
---------------------------------------------------
               ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXTENSIONS
      EAST   SOUTH  WEST   NORTH  CAR  TYPE  POL  AREA   OBSN
                 NO DATA AVAILABLE FOR ANALYSIS


SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
------------------------------------------------

 Date   Begin  Max   End  Xray  Op Region  Locn    2695 MHz  8800 MHz  15.4 GHz
------  ----  ----  ----  ----  -- ------ ------  --------- --------- ---------
NO DATA AVAILABLE.


REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
------------------------------------------------

                C   M   X     S   1   2   3   4   Total   (%)
               --  --  --    --  --  --  --  --    ---  ------
Uncorrellated: 0   0   0     0   0   0   0   0    000  ( 0.0)

 Total Events: 000 optical and x-ray.


EVENTS WITH SWEEPS AND/OR OPTICAL PHENOMENA FOR THE LAST UTC DAY
----------------------------------------------------------------

 Date   Begin  Max   End  Xray  Op Region  Locn    Sweeps/Optical Observations
------  ----  ----  ----  ----  -- ------ ------   ---------------------------
                            NO DATA AVAILABLE.

NOTES:
     All times are in Universal Time (UT).  Characters preceding begin, max,
     and end times are defined as:  B = Before,  U = Uncertain,  A = After.
     All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce
     associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the
     x-rays.  Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the
     optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times.

     Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include:

          II        = Type II Sweep Frequency Event
          III       = Type III Sweep
          IV        = Type IV Sweep
          V         = Type V Sweep
          Continuum = Continuum Radio Event
          Loop      = Loop Prominence System,
          Spray     = Limb Spray,
          Surge     = Bright Limb Surge,
          EPL       = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb.


**  End of Daily Report  **

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Date: 30 Jul 1994 12:10:24 -0700
From: lll-winken.llnl.gov!apple.com!apple.com![e-mail]
Subject: IRCs vs $$
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Derek Wills) writes:

>[e-mail] (Wolf Harranth OE1WHC) says:

>>We recently operated special event station OE1XRW/IMD and received about
>>three hundred letters for a direct QSL. About a third of them with neither
>>an IRC nor a greenstamp, About twenty letters with more than 1$ or more
>>than one IRC, the rest with either 1$ or 1 IRC. Air Mail from Austria to
>>the USA costs about 1,50$, to Japan about 2$. IRCs can be "cashed in" for
>>a stamp worth 60 Cents. We spent more than 200$ to deliver direct QSLs.

>   ...I am
>   amazed that you received one-third of the requests with no $$/IRCs,
>   I receive perhaps 2% without $$/IRCs.

Well, the difference may be the perceived value of the cards.  The
OE1XRW station is "merely" a special events station.  Whereas Derek is
manager to some semi-exotic DX (marginally exotic? :-) :-).


>   Some European managers
>   do this routinely.  For mailings to non-US, some managers mail all
>   their cards from a neighboring country with lower postal rates.

Received a card yesterday from DL1OY (manager for EV5DX) mailed
from Holland.  If memory serves, Nellie mailed my XF4CI card from Texas.
ZD8Z's card from VE3HO was mailed from somewhere in the U.S. east coast.
So, it is not just European managers who is doing the smart thing.

Hmmm... can't managers in different parts of the world collaborate
a little in this respect?  DL1OY, as an example, could send Derek
a bunch of cards, already filled out and in their SAE, in bulk.
Derek can stick 29 cent stamps on them and give them to the USPS.
Derek, in turn, can send DL1OY cards for 9V1YC destined to Germany
in the same manner.  It would still be much faster than the Buro.

More hmmm... come to think of it, there could be simply stateside
sub-managers who just take the bulk-shipped SAEs from a European manager
and simply stick 29 cent stamps on them and push them into mailboxes.
Wimps like me, who would never think of becoming a QSL manager, can
volunteer services this way.

BTW, to all QSL managers, whereever you are, a big Thank-you!

73,

Kok Chen, AA6TY                [e-mail]
Apple Computer, Inc.

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Date: 30 Jul 1994 19:51:56 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!asuvax!chnews!scorpion.ch.intel.com![e-mail]
Subject: IRCs vs $$
To: [e-mail]

In article <31e8j0$[e-mail]>, Kok Chen <[e-mail]> wrote:

>... there could be simply stateside
>sub-managers who just take the bulk-shipped SAEs from a European manager
>and simply stick 29 cent stamps on them and push them into mailboxes.
>Kok Chen, AA6TY                [e-mail]

How about having stateside QSL managers who PRINT and mail QSL cards for
foreign stations based on graphic files and/or databases sent over Internet?
Are we nearing the 21st century or not?

73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC  (Not speaking for Intel)

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Date: 1 Aug 94 12:47:17 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: lightbulbs as antennas
To: [e-mail]

This thread is further evidence that you don't need a beam up on a tower
and a footwarmer PA to participate in this hobby. Which is also why (in
reference to a previous thread that was recently put to death) it should
be no surprise that an Isoloop antenna can be an effective one.

Steve, KB2PWM

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Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 01:12:23 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu!news.ecn.bgu.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!gatech!udel!gvls1!hpwisf1.han.unisysgsg.com![e-mail]
Subject: NOS like program for the Mac?
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>
[e-mail] (Tony Pelliccio) writes:

> I'm trying to hook up 3 Macs to a SL/IP dedicated connection. I know that
> on DOS boxes you can use KA9Q's NOS but I'm curious if there's anything for
> a Mac?
>
> The way the system will be hooked up is the 3 machines will hook up via
> localtalk to a fourth which has the dedicated SL/IP connection. At this
> point each machine is assigned an IP addr and the SL/IP box acts as a
> router.
>
> HELP!
>
> --
> == Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR
> == [e-mail], Tel. [phone] Fax. [phone]
> == The opinions above are my own and not those of my employer.



I use InterSlip by Interconn, is free and works fine. You can get it
from
ftp://intercon.com/

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Date: 1 Aug 94 15:04:01 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: VE3ONT adds 50 MHz EME
To: [e-mail]

                             VE3ONT Adds 50 MHz EME

 As a result of discussions at the recent meeting of the Central States VHF
 Society, the Toronto VHF Society (VE3ONT) has added 50 MHz to the list of bands
 to be used in the upcoming EME contest.  50 MHz will on the air on a non-
 interference basis simultaneously with 1296 MHz on Sunday of the first EME
 contest weekend (see schedule below).

 VE3ONT will use the 46m (150') dish operated by the Institute for Space and
 Terrestrial Science at Algonquin Park (FN05xw).  On 50 MHz, the antenna will be
 linearly polarized, and output power will be 1 kW.

 UTC Date       VE3ONT TX freq      listening range          approx. times

 Oct 29         432.050 MHz         432.050 - 432.060        0645 - 1815 UTC
 Oct 30        1296.050            1296.050 - 1296.060       0754 - 1844
 Oct 30          50.100              50.100 -  50.105        0754 - 1844

 Nov 26         144.100             144.100 - 144.110        0538 - 1645
 Nov 27         144.100             144.100 - 144.110        0646 - 1713

 Because the Algonquin dish has a 9 degree lower elevation limit, stations with
 horizon-only antennas in eastern North America will have a limited chance to
 work VE3ONT.  We request that az-el capable stations in Europe and North
 America delay their QSOs with VE3ONT until after moonrise/moonset windows.
 This will allow the many horizon-only stations a better chance of making an EME
 QSO during the limited time available.

 Link budget calculations show that 50 MHz stations with 10 dBd (6 elements or
 so) beams and 1 kW should be able to work VE3ONT off the Moon; smaller stations
 are urged to try as well.

 Use of the dish at the Algonquin Space Complex is always subject to last minute
 preemption for non-Amateur purposes.

 QSLs with an SAE to Dennis Mungham VE3ASO, RR 3, Mountain, Ontario, Canada, K0E
 1S0.  Reception reports are also welcome.  Send your log to the ARRL.

 For further information contact Peter Shilton VE3VD, [phone].  Latest
 developments will be provided at the International EME Conference, Gottskars,
 Sweden, August 26-28.

 de W9IP
 August 1, 1994.

 Michael Owen W9IP
 [e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 21:00:08 MDT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs![e-mail]
Subject: Welcome to rec.radio.info!
To: [e-mail]

Archive-name: radio/rec-radio-info/welcome
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Date: Sun, 31 Jul 1994 04:52:28 GMT
From: netcomsv!netcom.com![e-mail]
Subject: What to do with old OST's
To: [e-mail]

: Give them to a library or radio club that will make them available to
: the public. Or leave some of them in waiting rooms for doctors. dentists,
: etc. Don't let some collector bundle them up out of sight, and don't consume
: landfill space with them.

I disagree with almost everything here.  First .... have you ever tried to
go to a library and look up magazines from only a couple of years ago ....
let alone 20 years or more?  It generally .... cannot be done.... they'd
rather move it all to micro-film.     Doctors, dentists offices .... I don't
think so .... not magazines more than a couple of months old .... talk
about land fill... that's it!

A radio club would be a good idea ..... IF they have room in a club
ham shack ... which most clubs do not have.   I suggest you pass them
out free to newer hams so that they can get a "feel" for what ham
radio was like in the years before they got on the air.

Or ... you can always take them to a ham swap meet and sell 'em.

There's a ham (who shall remain nameless) down in California
who has one of the largest collections of ham radio related magazines,
books, callbooks .... everything .... including a complete collection
of QSTs. He's also got magazines from a bunch of different countries
..... it fills up a garage (and then some).... it's a regular library
.... thousands and thousands of different periodicals.

The sad news is that he mentioned that he would be willing to donate
them to the ARRL or a club who would be willing to maintain them.....
alas....... nobody wants it because it takes up too much space and
resources.

So, sell if you wish ..... or give em to those who want to read
up on the history of the hobby ...... but don't expect that they'll
be read if given to a library or even a radio club (where it'll
likely stay in one ham's house anyway).

It's just an opinion.
73 de Sandy
WA6BXH/7J1ABV
[e-mail]

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Date: 31 Jul 1994 05:40:34 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!jobone!ukma!asuvax!chnews!scorpion.ch.intel.com![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <31c699$[e-mail]>, <31e8f9$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>ax
Subject : Re: Ramsey SlyFox

In article <[e-mail]>,
Jeffrey Herman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <31e8f9$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>>In article <31c699$[e-mail]>,
>If it takes this much debate over what John meant, then let's hope
>he's not the one writing the assembly manuals for the kits.  ;)
>Jeff NH6IL

Hi Jeff, it _is_ funny in a tragic way. When John and I were young hams,
the average ham wrote, read, spoke, and understood reasonably fluent
American English... not any more. The average ham somewhat understood
the laws of physics... not any more. The average ham understood that he
had to expend some energy to get a kit to work right if he built it
himself... not any more. I wish ham radio was exempt from the conditions
that are dragging this once great country down the tubes but, sadly,
it is not and unfortunately, only old farts like me can remember the
glory days when hams were at the forefront of communications technology.
(John, I'm not calling you an old fart but remember when hams were using
singlesidewinder mode and the military was still using AM)?

PS. Jeff, I corrected your spelling and put a period at the end of your
sentence so it's not a direct quote. ;-)

73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC  (Not speaking for Intel)

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Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 19:47:45 GMT
From: news.Hawaii.Edu!kahuna![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <31c699$[e-mail]>, <31e8f9$[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: Ramsey SlyFox

In article <31e8f9$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>In article <31c699$[e-mail]>,
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>In article <[e-mail]>, Greg Bullough <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>>>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>>
>>>>>it's easier to spread the coils a bit than to have to add more turns!
>>
>>>Gee, Cecil, it's a good thing that kit manufacturers can expect not to
>>>have to re-teach hams the 'basic physics' that they had to know to get
>>>their ham licenses, isn't it?  Greg
>>
>>Hi again Greg, Obviously, John functions on an algebraic plane so he
>>no doubt meant to say, "add more (negative) turns".  ;-)
>
>Sorry, got interrupted and didn't finish this posting. Alan has already
>explained what John meant but here it is again with the obvious implied
>words that were left out.
>
>"it's easier to spread the coils a bit" (on a coil with too many turns)
>"than to have to add more turns" (to a coil with too few turns).

It it takes this much debate over what John meant, then let's hope
he's not the one writing the assembly manuals for the kits  ;)

Jeff NH6IL

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Date: 30 Jul 1994 19:08:25 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!chnews!scorpion.ch.intel.com![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <31c699$[e-mail]>cmoore
Subject : Re: Ramsey SlyFox

In article <31c699$[e-mail]>,
 <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]>, Greg Bullough <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>>>>it's easier to spread the coils a bit than to have to add more turns!
>
>>Gee, Cecil, it's a good thing that kit manufacturers can expect not to
>>have to re-teach hams the 'basic physics' that they had to know to get
>>their ham licenses, isn't it?  Greg
>
>Hi again Greg, Obviously, John functions on an algebraic plane so he
>no doubt meant to say, "add more (negative) turns".  ;-)

Sorry, got interrupted and didn't finish this posting. Alan has already
explained what John meant but here it is again with the obvious implied
words that were left out.

"it's easier to spread the coils a bit" (on a coil with too many turns)
"than to have to add more turns" (to a coil with too few turns).

73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC  (Not speaking for Intel)

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